About This Episode
In today’s thought-provoking instalment, we dive deep into the world of manipulation tactics by examining the intriguing case of hydroxyl acid. This substance serves as a fascinating example of how true facts and scientific terms can be twisted to mislead and frighten the public.
Join me for an insightful journey through various real-world examples, illustrating how ignorance and fear are often exploited to push hidden agendas and ideologies. From political blunders during election campaigns to award-winning school projects that reveal the power of misinformation, I expose the tricks and techniques used by the unscrupulous to sway public opinion.
Throughout the episode, you’ll discover how common tactics like using scary-sounding scientific names can lead to false conclusions, and we explore a phenomenon called “zohnarism”, all to encourage you to sharpen your critical thinking skills, question the claims we all encounter daily, and avoid falling prey to manipulative schemes.
Key Themes
- Anti-manipulation tactics
- Scary scientific terminologies
- Hydroxyl acid hoax
- Critical thinking
- Misinformation in media
- Scientific literacy importance
- Public susceptibility
- Misleading true facts
- Political manipulation examples
- Health and safety misconceptions
AntiManipulation
Exposing the tools, tricks, and techniques which the unscrupulous use to manipulate us into buying their stuff.
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Transcript
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Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:00:32]:
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Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:01:09]:
You can find us on, Apple Podcasts, Audible, Amazon Music, Spotify, YouTube. Anywhere you can find, podcasts, you’ll find this, this part of this, entire show. With that all said, let’s crack on. So what are we talking about today? Today, we are talking about hydroxyl acid. What? What the heck is it? Why are we talking about that? Stay tuned. All will become clear. I promise you. Have you heard, excuse me, of hydroxyl acid? It’s the first quest first, thing we should, establish, basically.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:01:49]:
Have you heard of it? Let me tell you a little bit about, some of its effects, some of the effects of hydroxyl acid, And then we’ll go on to explore what it is, and then we’ll explore why we’re talking about it. Hydroxyl acid is, it’s a major component of acid rain. It contributes to the greenhouse effect. It can cause severe burns. It contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape. It, accelerates the corrosion and rusting of many, many metals. It can cause electrical failures. It can cause, it can reduce the effectiveness of blakemore in in cars and and bikes and so on and trains.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:02:38]:
It has been found in tumors of terminal cancer patients. It is everywhere. It is these days, it is everywhere. Even newborn babies have hydroxyl acid in them. It is used in so many places as well. It’s an industrial solvent. It’s an industrial coolant. It’s used in nuclear power plants, used in the production of polystyrene.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:03:04]:
It’s used as a fire retardant. It’s used in the distribution of pesticides. In fact, so prevalent is it in the distribution of pesticides that even after washing, the fruit or whatever, it still remains contaminated with hydroxyl acid. It’s an additive in certain junk foods and in other food products. It’s an ingredient in pretty much every single drink as well. It is everywhere. And I’m sure you agree, it sounds nasty stuff. Right? We should probably look at banning it or at the very least, heavily restricting it.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:03:46]:
Right? And it makes sense. Something like that. It it can be toxic. Even small amounts can be toxic. They can they can kill you. Just a small amount of it can be enough to kill you. It’s certainly not the sort of thing that you’d want in your in your food or or in in what you drink. Right? Now what is hydroxyl acid? It goes by many names, or it’s referred to by many, many different names.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:04:13]:
It’s known as hydroxyl acid. It’s it’s known as hydrogen hydroxide. It’s known as dihydrogen oxide. It’s known as dihydrogen monoxide. I mean, let’s face it. You don’t want carbon monoxide anywhere near you. Right? Why would you want dihydrogen monoxide? Sometimes it’s known as hydric acid. Sometimes it’s known as oxidane.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:04:38]:
Sometimes it’s even known by the more common name of water. What? Yes. It’s water. I have been talking about good old h two o, water, the giver of life. It’s essential for all of our lives. Without water, we would die. And yet every single one of those points that I’m raised about it in the past few moments are absolutely true. It is a fire retardant.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:05:06]:
Yeah. It’s an additive in in junk foods. It’s an additive in all sorts of foods. You can get burned by it. Steam burns can be incredibly nasty. Excuse me. It is used in nuclear power stations. It is used in the production of polystyrene.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:05:21]:
All of these things are absolutely true. And yet, obviously, water. We need water. It’s not something we looked about. Once we know it’s called water, all of a sudden, this scary hydroxyl acid, it’s like, well, hang on a minute. Well, obviously, you wouldn’t want it bad. Right? So what’s the point here? What is the point that I’m making here? Well, this is an anti manipulation episode. This is showing how people can use things and use potentially our lack of knowledge to try and scare us into buying their, their agenda, buying into their ideologies.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:06:11]:
And, yeah, we we laugh and joke about, hydroxyl acid or dihydrogen monoxide. There’s the big joke that goes on. You can find everywhere on the Internet about dihydrogen monoxide and the dangers of it. A big joke about it all. But this serves a very important point. This serves to illustrate something really important. Let me explain, give you a couple of examples. In February of 2011, during a campaign during the the campaign of the parliamentary elections in Finland, candidates were asked whether the availability of hydric acid, also known as dihydrogen monoxide, should be restricted.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:07:00]:
That’s what they were asked. It was one of these voting advice applications where they ask candidates, questions on all sorts of topics, and use that to help you figure out who you should vote for. They threw the question in, should hydric acid, otherwise known as dihydrogen monoxide, should act the availability of it be restricted? 49% of candidates said, yes. It should be restricted. 49% of parliamentary candidates, just based on the the name, said it should be restricted. What does that tell you? What does that tell you? Let’s see. There’s, in, Aliso Viejo, I hope I pronounced that, Aliso Viejo in in California, almost considered banning the use of fat foam containers at city sponsored events because dihydrogen monoxide is part of the production of those foam containers. And a a paralegal actually asked the city council to put on the agenda the proposal to ban the use of foam containers at city sponsored events because of the use of dihydrogen monoxide in the in the production of those foam containers.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:08:24]:
Wow. And my one of my favorites one of my favorites is in, back in 1997 at Eagle Rock Eagle Rock Junior High School in Idaho Falls, Idaho, 14 year old student Nathan Zoner gathered 43 votes out of 15 out of the 59th graders he he, surveys, 43 of them voted to ban the chemical dihydrogen monoxide. The reason I particularly like this one is that he received first prize in the Greater Idaho’s Fall Science Fair for his analysis of the results of his survey, and, journalist, journalist James k Glassman coined the term zonarism in, in Nathan Zoner’s honor. Con yeah. He coined the term zonarism to refer to what we’re talking about today, the use of a true fact to lead a scientifically or mathematically ignorant public to a false conclusion, and that is what we’re talking about here. You the use of of true facts and bamboozling people with with, with scientific names and scary sounding names to lead the scientifically and mathematically illiterate, ignorant public into making false conclusions. That is a key point that I want to to to, to cover here. So we see it so often time and time again.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:10:07]:
So many places, they will use these scary sounding names to try to put us off things because they’re relying on people’s ignorance. They’re relying on the fact that people don’t have a deep understanding of of perhaps scientific principles, so they may not be aware that this very scary sounding thing is actually perfectly innocent. We demonstrate that by talking about, oxidane or dihydrogen monoxide or, or hydroxyl acid. Sounds really scary. Did you know they’re actually putting oxidane into the drinking water these days? What? Oh, yay. Sparkloads of outrage about that. Because people don’t know enough to realize, hang on. That’s water.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:10:56]:
It’s perfectly safe. You get this with all sorts of things. As I record this, there’s a a debate. Is it really a debate? A debate’s only a debate if there’s informed information about it rather than people hiding information, obfuscating, and trying to trying to scare people by using, these all these dodgy tactics. But there’s discussion about a particular thing that’s being added to a cow feed in order to reduce methane, reduce methane emissions. And I was reading one of them, and one person actually said, this product is made up of this and this and this and this. And this particular thing, oh, this particular thing is used in list of various other things. Like, hang on.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:11:46]:
That tells you nothing about it. Water is used in rat poison. Water is used in rat poison. It’s used in the, manufacture of yoga mats. It’s used in nuclear power stations. Doesn’t mean it’s dangerous. Doesn’t mean it’s dangerous at all. And yet, they’re trying to equate a danger by association.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:12:11]:
You used to get it sometimes, nonsense around vaccines. Oh, vaccine vaccines contain mercury, and mercury is is dangerous. Yes. Mercury is poisonous. You wouldn’t wanna ingest mercury. Pretty nasty stuff. God, to think that we used to have thermometers that you would stick in your mouth, and the thermometer actually had mercury in it. Yeah.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:12:35]:
You would not want to ingest mercury. Excuse me. However, when they say there’s mercury in vaccines, well, these days, very few of them, if any, have it anyway. But it wasn’t mercury. It wasn’t the element mercury. It was a compound which had mercury in it amongst other things. And it was basically a compound to stop the, stop the vaccine going off. You were not being exposed to mercury.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:13:08]:
Just as when you drink water, you’re not being exposed to hydroxyl. Hydrogen which, cause the environment to explode and burn and and kill all those people. You’re not being exposed to hydrogen, and yet they use that to try and scare people. They do this because they know they haven’t got a genuine argument, so they try, they basically use zonorism. They use a true fact. They obfuscate it. They turn things around, try and make it scary. Oh, are you having ascorbic acid? No.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:13:48]:
I’m having some vitamin c. Oh, wait. That’s the same thing. And yet, it is it is everywhere. So many places use this to try and manipulate us into taking up their cause. Just as, just as as I said, in, in California, in in in that town in California, Aliso Viejo, where they were looking at banning foam containers because because, hydroxyl monoxide was used in their production. It is such a manipulative thing, and it happens so, so often. I’ll give you another example.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:14:29]:
They say that something is dangerous because it is one molecule away from something completely different. One molecule difference can make a huge difference. In fact, here’s an example for you. Again, good old water good old water, h 2, 2 atoms of hydrogen, 1 atom of oxygen bonded together in a molecule. H two o, water, essential for life. If you take h two zero two, so just add blakemore oxygen atom into this molecule. So you’ve got 2 hydrogens and 2 oxygens together in 1 molecule. And it’s just one atom diff just one single atom different from water.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:15:19]:
Just one one atom different from water. And yet it’s hydrogen peroxide, deadly. Not the sort of thing you’d want to drink. 1 even one single atom can make a huge difference. So by saying I I’ve heard it said, margarine is just one molecule away from being plastic. Water is just one atom away from being hydrogen peroxide. Doesn’t mean that we should not drink water because it’s like hydrogen, it’s like hydrogen peroxide. Absolutely not.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:15:51]:
They’re relying on scientific illiteracy or, lack of knowledge of of, of science to bamboozle people into buying into their ideology. And you have to ask yourself, why do they do that? When someone is seeking to persuade you of an ideology or of a belief or of a viewpoint, Apply your critical thinking skills. Look around. Look into what they’re, look into what they’re talking about. Look into the claims that they’re making. Consider things from different perspectives and angles. Hey. This thing has a scary sounding name, but is it actually scary? Find out more about it.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:16:33]:
And you do have to ask yourself, why are they resorting to those sorts of techniques rather than giving me real information that I can understand and decide that the thing is is dangerous. Most of the time, it’s because they don’t have any genuine proof that the thing is dangerous, because most of the time, it’s not dangerous. So they have to make stuff up, like that whole thing with mercury and vaccines. Bunch of anti vanchers or pro diseases to give them their correct name decide they don’t want people to have vaccines. They have got no information to to, to prove that they’re dangerous or no information to prove that they’re more dangerous than not having them, so they invent stuff. Oh, it’s got mercury in it, which okay in as much as your water’s got hydrogen in it. Pay attention to the sorts of things these people are saying when they try and manipulate. It is in it is in all fields, everywhere.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:17:38]:
You’ll find find this sort of stuff. Another example where they try and scare or another illustration of how you might try and scare someone. It’s like, if I were to offer you chlorine. Here. Have some chlorine. No. Thank you. No.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:17:54]:
Thank you. It’s deadly. It was used as, as, poison gas in, in World War 1. Excuse me. To great effect. Killing people with chlorine gas. No. I don’t want to consume chlorine.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:18:08]:
Alright. Would you like to consume some sodium? Well, you know what happens if you take a piece of sodium and drop it in water? Fizzes flames and all sorts. Sodium is highly reactive. If you swallowed some sodium, it’s not going to do you a lot of good. You get severe burns all the way down your esophagus, all the way down your, down your throat and and, and and tubes. Put sodium and chlorine together, you get good old table salt. Enhances the flavors of food and is actually something that we need. As physically, humans, we need, some level of salt, sodium chloride, to, enable us to function.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:18:57]:
2 very, very dangerous chemicals when they’re in their atomic form, so just pure sodium or pure chlorine, together as sodium chloride, sodium chloride molecules, salt, which so many of us sprinkle on our food, which we knee we we need salt. Right? We need sodium chloride. And yet when you see people talking about, oh, this contains this, this element. Vaccines contain mercury. No. It doesn’t con I mean, yes, if you were to be consuming mercury on its own, yet get some rather nasty poisoning. However, the, actual compound of of which it is a part, it functions very, very differently. You don’t, gas somebody by sprinkling salt at them, for example.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:19:59]:
So that’s what I wanted to explore today as we, we looked at hydroxyl acid. We’ve had a look at, the ways people use these these, sometimes they’ll they’ll use a true fact and disguise it or use scary terms. Now you use it to lead scientifically and mathematically ignorant public to a false conclusion, zonarism, which was proven by a 14 year old back in 1997 for his for his school projects. People have known about it for some time in in memorial. But when people are trying to bamboozle bamboozle oh, that’s a difficult word to say. Trying to bamboozle you with complicated, terms, with, scary sounding scientific names. Ask yourself, what’s truly going on here? Why are they resorting to this? Is there actually nothing else to back up their claims? And, usually, there isn’t. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be resorting to that.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:21:12]:
Take your time. Look into the claims that are being made. Examine. So what is what is this hydroxyl acid? Oh, okay. It’s water. Maybe I’m not gonna be scared that we they use water in the production of, polystyrene packaging after all. That’s it for today. It’s a snippet of anti manipulation.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:21:33]:
Some of the exposing some of the tools, tricks, and techniques which the unscrupulous use to try and manipulate us into buying their stuff, buying their ideologies. Hopefully, you found that interesting. Hopefully, it’s it’s helped to open your eyes. Hopefully, you’ll be looking looking, looking at things a little bit more carefully and not taking what people say, as gospel. And that includes everything that I’ve said as well. Hey. Research it. Look into it.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:22:04]:
If you want, there’s a transcript of this. There’s, the show notes and so on, all at KeithBlakemorenoble.com/show. Look for the one about, hydroxyl acid. You’ll find show notes. You’ll find, transcript transcript. If you wanna pour through that, pull stuff out that you can then go and go and dig around and and and look up and see whether I have been attempting to mislead you. I haven’t. But then again, I would say that, wouldn’t I? Prove it for yourself and do the same same due diligence every time people make claims about things, trying to get you to buy into their ideologies.
Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:22:47]:
That’s it for now. Please do, if you like this, would give us a like, a comment, a share, a subscribe. Give it a review on your favorite platform. Subscribe to it on your favourite, podcast platform. It all helps to spread the word, and I will catch you in another episode very soon. Until then, thank you so much for joining in joining me, and I hope it’s hope I hope it’s helped to open your eyes just that little bit more. Bye for now.