The One With Lucy Waite

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:00:32]:
Hey. Hello. Welcome back. Welcome back. Thank you for joining me for another episode. I have a guest this week. My guest this week is a lady called Lucy. And now Lucy has, over 20 years of experience in teaching, coaching, consulting, and training with Cambridge University as a critical friend.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:00:50]:
Lucy also has 12 years experience in building a successful chocolate business. You can see why I’ve got her on. A successful chocolate business supplying supermarkets and advising multimillion pound businesses. Now, however, Lucy just loves being with her dogs, revisiting her art, and helping others through her tribe at YAB, stands for your affordable board. If Lucy can inspire a 15 year old gang member to want to learn pre 1914 war poetry, I just imagine how she can can inspire so many others to want to make changes, to be happy, to see the power they have in their own decisions, and to solve problems, turning them into opportunities. That is my guest today, Lucy Wade. Let’s bring Lucy into the studio. Hello, Lucy.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:01:40]:
How are you doing?

Lucy Waide [00:01:41]:
Hello. I’m brilliant. Thanks. Very excited.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:01:44]:
Oh, yay. Awesome. So, Lucy, we’ve we’ve heard your bio. We’ve heard your bio, but who is Lucy? Who’s the lady behind it all?

Lucy Waide [00:01:52]:
Well oh, thank you for that. That bio is that sounded amazing. So I I am just figuring stuff out, and I feel like I’ve been doing that for the last 30 years. I’m 46 now. And it’s it’s a lot of things that I thought, well, nobody tells you about these things. So it’s a lot of learning as a teacher, past teacher, past chocolatier, chocolate business. I have a tendency to turn anything that I do into a business now, so I’ve gotta be gotta be careful with that. Mhmm.

Lucy Waide [00:02:25]:
But I I love learning, and I have gone up and down so many times to rock bottom all the way up to, you know, having, amazing things and things that I thought with the ambitions met. And then when you have all that, you sort of realise what is important. And, you know, I just I’m looking forward to a simple life, where I listen to my gut more, and I just enjoy life and choose to be happy.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:03:00]:
Fantastic. That sound sounds right. And let’s face it. Who doesn’t wanna be happy with their life? That’s ultimately what it’s all about, really, I guess, isn’t it?

Lucy Waide [00:03:07]:
I guess. I mean, we’ve got a choice. You know, we can choose to be happy. We’ve just got to choose it. Yeah.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:03:15]:
So, before we dive in to explore how you came to be the amazing lady you are today, I’ve got to ask, you are a critical friend. What is that? I mean, I’m assuming it’s not a friend who goes wearing that outfit with those shoes.

Lucy Waide [00:03:28]:
I can’t I can’t do that as well. I am so judgy. I really am judgy. But I but, again, the teacher comes out in me, and I’m able to do it. So as it sounds like a compliment. Takes you a minute to figure out. It’s not. But yeah.

Lucy Waide [00:03:40]:
So a critical friend is somebody in business. So I I learned this 20 years ago with Cambridge University, and we did it within the educational sector where, we got heads of schools, governors, heads of departments, policymakers within education. Got them all together, and a critical friend brings those together, facilitate that. And they work with those heads and leaders in industry as somebody who’s nothing to do with the business, nothing to do with the school, and nothing to do with any monetary stocks or shares. Obviously, it’s paid. I’m I’m I’m also terrible at charging. But the, but the idea is that you are just that friend to the business owner, to the leader, because everybody needs somebody to bounce an idea off that has no investment, has no ulterior motive as to how to direct them. If if you’re talking to somebody who owns shares, of course, they’re gonna want to gear you in the way that gets more money.

Lucy Waide [00:04:46]:
Is that the healthiest thing to do? Is that the moral thing to do? Is that the best thing to do for the end user? So somebody who’s still experienced within the field. But you’ve gotta be a really good listener. You’ve gotta be a good communicator, and you’ve just gotta be bothered. You’ve got to be bothered about that person that you’re talking to, and I love it. I love problem solving. And I think the teacher, the teaching has has been a thread throughout. And to say I never wanted to be a teacher, it’s just absolutely, obviously, what my core is. Yeah.

Lucy Waide [00:05:20]:
You know, that that idea that you can sit down with somebody who’s feeling really rubbish, a bit lost, like I’ve been recently. It’s my tribe that has helped me out. And sit down, just have a chat, a very calm chat. It’s never, you know, it’s never and this is why it’s a critical friend because they’re at points in your in your career, in the business that really do just need that extra, extra voice, extra set of ears, extra mind on it. And just to help coax it out of them and help them to come to a conclusion of to have some actionable points. So I always like people to go away with 4 things that they can do in the next couple of weeks Because for a lot of people, it is literally just getting started on fixing the problem. So many of us know what the problem is. So many of us know how to fix the problem.

Lucy Waide [00:06:10]:
We don’t do it.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:06:11]:
Yes.

Lucy Waide [00:06:11]:
We’re not we are not ready to do it. We’re not ready to fix the problem. And that critical friend can just give them, oh, why don’t you try this? Just try this for now. And it just gets them on that first step just to doing it. And once they’re doing it, it they’ll they’ll fly. You know, similar to and and I’ve done this myself. I’ve worked on myself on this. I’ve worked with leaders in industry on this, and it works to in in the tiniest of of areas.

Lucy Waide [00:06:38]:
I did it when I was, in in COVID. What COVID came just at, Easter for a chocolatier. That’s a new nightmare. And you can’t post out Easter eggs. You cannot post out a a hollow

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:06:52]:
No. No.

Lucy Waide [00:06:54]:
I’ve just spent £10,000 on, on stock for Easter. Mhmm. Easter workshops. We’d we’d sold out Easter workshops, and you have to pivot. So I’d never done a video in my life, and I wanted to smack myself in the face every time I put the camera on me because I was like, oh my god. You look like an idiot. You sound like an idiot. I did sound like a very effeminate Peter Kaye, when I did the but I did it.

Lucy Waide [00:07:19]:
I did one video

Lucy Waite [00:07:21]:
and was like, oh, quite like that.

Lucy Waide [00:07:23]:
And then I really got into it and absolutely flew with it. We went all the way over the world. We had people in America, people in Dubai, tuning in. It wasn’t live, but we filmed it like it was live. Yeah. And I just thought I just went through making some chocolate that the kids can do and join in with and talk a bit bit of rubbish at the time. I like to call it I was a, a a children’s TV presenter on Yeah. You know? I was just

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:07:49]:
I get the I get this. I get the, impression of the style. Yeah.

Lucy Waite [00:07:52]:
But yeah. So that’s that’s the whole just

Lucy Waide [00:07:55]:
just do that one thing. Mhmm. I’ll help you do it. Hold your hand to do it. Guide you through it. But once you get that one pragmatic thing done, the likelihood of it carrying on in in the momentum, is more likely. So that’s what a critical friend is.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:08:11]:
Got it. That makes a lot of sense. I do love that that that nudge to get you started. You’re right. It’s it’s so often we know what we want to do. We know what we need to do. We know how to do it. We just getting that started.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:08:24]:
What do you want? Once you’re moving, momentum is much easier.

Lucy Waide [00:08:28]:
Exactly. You know, we’d rather unplug a drain than fill in a form. You know, we’d rather do these things that, that we’d we’d we’d just put enough, but we know I’ll just get them with.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:08:39]:
Yeah. So in the in the past Blakemore, before you do what you do now, in the past, you were you were a teacher and you’re a a a chocolatier. Which which came first, or did they overlap, or how how did they come about?

Lucy Waide [00:08:53]:
So my my background is actually in art. I did an art degree. I actually did hair and beauty straight after straight after GCSEs, much to the disappointment of my, head of year. Realised it wasn’t for me within sort of 6 months because it was all blue rinses and, chipped my nail. And thought, no.

Lucy Waite [00:09:14]:
I just wanna do art. So I went

Lucy Waide [00:09:16]:
and did arts at 6th form. That led into doing art at university. I then thought I’d go and explore the world for a year after university got bored within 3 weeks. Signed up to a post 16 teaching qualification because I thought, why not? My, my friend was doing it. I thought I’d join in just at a local college. And that’s where it started. But because there was no there there was a few art hours, so you have to do a certain number of hours in order to get your qualification unpaid just to get your experience going. And there weren’t many art ones going.

Lucy Waide [00:09:50]:
So I did English for, for children in, drama in college who had failed English in the GCSE, so they were resits in it. And I I was surprisingly good at it. Certainly got to see myself at GCSE. I was surprisingly good at helping other people, and it caught the eye of somebody who was in, education in Manchester. And a new program had started for GTP graduate teacher program. But you just needed to have, you needed to have a a degree. And I started working at Fairfield School as, an English teacher in 2000 and 2002. And then because, I’d loved it there, but there were there were certain things that happened, that that sort of created a little bit of friction.

Lucy Waide [00:10:48]:
There was sort of a bullying incident with towards me. You don’t expect it. But you say there’s bullying in school. You yeah. Well, in the staff as well. And I, decided to just write a book because nobody tells you these things, so I’m gonna write a book about it. And that did really well. It just gave them the idea that, you know, there’s more to teaching.

Lucy Waide [00:11:09]:
There’s more to teaching than sitting in a classroom trying to get these kids to level 5 as a as a matter of course, as a matter of, you know, it’s just a factory. That’s all we were doing. It was like, no. Give it them back. They better get the c at it. Give give the coursework back. Tell them how to get the seats. Like, if they’re not gonna get it, that’s not what I’m trying to do.

Lucy Waide [00:11:28]:
I’m trying to give them skills for life, not give it a or I’ll do it for you. So the the teaching went into, special needs teaching in an autistic school, a local one in a private school. It was a mate. I loved it. And then through illness, I lost my teaching career. I I had, endometriosis growing unbeknownst to me for since I was 15. And it reared its head in 2009, and, I had to come away from teaching. And thought, well, I don’t like to do nothing.

Lucy Waide [00:11:58]:
And I’d always been doing something in the summer holidays. I’d started making fudge and and things like that. I used to love the the cake shows and the cupcake shows. And, that led into, chocolate. Everybody loves chocolate. Indeed. Not everybody loves cakes. And with the illness I had, if I started making a cake, I had to finish making a cake.

Lucy Waide [00:12:20]:
With chocolate, you can’t stop and stop. You you can’t stop and stop. So I was just quite cheeky at getting, my stuff in places. Just thought, well, they can waide say no. And, and then, you know, we we got more and more successful. I worked with, bars in in Manchester Hotels, managed to get the products on the shelves of booths. And, and then we were in talks with Asda and Tesco because they loved the products and they loved what I did. But then they realized I was a one man band and said, oh, I’m not quite ready for us.

Lucy Waide [00:12:56]:
But if you like, we can take your products. And I was like, no. Mine. Exactly. Yeah. So I I passed up on that, and and went for my own. And then, again, got a cafe because I thought, right, we’ve got money coming in from all these, for the wholesale. I was a wholesale customer, a a client.

Lucy Waide [00:13:20]:
I was a wholesale provider. I was serving customers. I was in delis. I was in in Boots. I was in supermarket. And, money was coming in, so I thought why not add a cafe to it? So went and started a cafe. That kind of went a bit pear shaped. Turned out we were actually sabotaged.

Lucy Waide [00:13:42]:
We ended up having to get the police involved. And, I’m not gonna say on it if it’s gonna go into the public, but we found out who it was who was who was doing the sabotaging. But it meant that I lost everything. So in that month, somebody, somebody bought the building that the bars were in that I I served, and that was bringing me in all all the money pretty much that that was funding the cafe as it grew. I’d spent £12,000 on getting the cafe sorted and all the equipment and stuff. And, so the building had been bought and demolished within 3 weeks. No idea what back enders had gone on there, central Manchester. Building was bought, crushed, and we were like, oh.

Lucy Waide [00:14:30]:
So that income just went.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:14:32]:
Mhmm.

Lucy Waide [00:14:32]:
The cafe wasn’t working effectively, so I came away from that. I was in the middle of IVF and then had to stop IVF because I was told, if I got pregnant, I would rip myself apart from the adhesions that I had. So I was feeling pretty useless and pretty pointless. So that was the probably the lowest point, that led into that very dark very, very, very dark time. And then you sort of come out of that, luckily, thanks to my dogs. And then after CBT therapy, a lot of therapy, I started the the route back, and that’s how I got into the chocolate shops. So one shop led to another, led to another. And then, again, recently, my endometriosis has waide its head again just in the last 3 years, and I’ve had to close that business down as well.

Lucy Waide [00:15:30]:
So we’re at the new beginning of a new beginning. Yeah. Round round 3.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:15:37]:
Round 3. Good lord. That that that is a a heck of a journey. I mean, so, obviously, with you you had the highs where you you’d created all of this, and then there was a sabotage, and then there was the the buildings where the bars, your customers removed. Your world collapses, basically. Yeah. How do you get out of a pit like that? I know your dogs had something to do with it, but how how on earth do you get out of a a pit like that and and re start rebuilding your life?

Lucy Waide [00:16:11]:
Well, for me, it was therapy, but the the dogs I know it sounds it sounds so bizarre, doesn’t it? Just that little thing. So when you are in that depth, I like to I like to think of it. That sounds really macabre. So so when you are in that depth of overwhelm and darkness and utter pointlessness, and do you think the best way is out because you’re a problem to everybody? So if you go, then, yeah, you’re a problem for a little bit, but just that one bit and they’ll get over it. Your mind is not your own

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:16:45]:
after all.

Lucy Waide [00:16:46]:
You you I like to call it, excuse the language, I like to call it dickhead. It’s this voice, that gets very loud. Very, very loud. And if you’re exhausted, you can’t you can’t be louder than that voice. Yeah. And that’s the voice that tells you, you’re better off just going. And, like, say, if you’re exhausted and in pain and, then you listen to it and think, you’re probably right. And luckily for me, my dog’s just interrupted that thread.

Lucy Waide [00:17:20]:
So it’s a thread. I’d I’d planned it. I’d planned it that that morning. My husband was working away and, I thought, right, well, nobody’s gonna check-in on me for a while. I was already on 20 tablets a day, so I have a dosset box, so it’s filled. So and because I take so many tablets a day, I can knock about 10 tablets in one go. Yeah. No problem.

Lucy Waide [00:17:43]:
Still do to this day, but but not by now. Yeah. So I just I just followed the thread. I’d resigned myself to it. It’s very, very bizarre when I think back on it now. And, you know, just as I’m about to neck my second handful, and swirl it down with water, I spot my dogs looking at me on the bed. And just they caught my eye, and I thought I have to get up for you.

Lucy Waite [00:18:12]:
I have to get up. I have to get up for you. Shit.

Lucy Waide [00:18:18]:
Shit. So 2 weeks later, I was in CBT therapy with the lovely Kaye, who I still I still in contact with now. So this was 2016. Yeah. And, and that was that the therapy the dogs interrupted the thread.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:18:35]:
Yeah.

Lucy Waide [00:18:35]:
And then Kaye helped me rebuild. And and I like to think I I just, that was when my superpowers were born because, that taught me that I will never ever do that. Waide will never do it. I have been in a position since then where I thought, again, the the voice was getting a little bit too

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:18:57]:
loud. Mhmm. When

Lucy Waide [00:18:59]:
and I I promised my sister by then. I told my sister. I haven’t told my parents necessarily in that detail. It would upset them. Yeah. Probably, I’m gonna have to now because it isn’t. They they have an idea. They have an idea.

Lucy Waide [00:19:14]:
I do tell them how dark it got, just not in specifics. But I’d I’d spoke to my sister, and I and I said to her she said, what can I do to help? And I said, if I go quiet, worry. If I tell you that I’m thinking this, it’s fine. I’m not gonna do it because I’m saying it. Saying it out loud removes all the power from it, removes all the power because it’s him inside. It is him. It’s him inside that says, you know, that’s the internal voice. So I said to her, if if I’m quiet, worry.

Lucy Waide [00:19:45]:
If I’m saying it out loud, it’s okay. So she’s like, well, if you ever think it, you have to say it out loud to me. So there was a there was a time just a couple of years ago when I call closed this business again. Mhmm. And I was throwing everything away because I’d I’d waited 2 years for an operation, ran out of money. And, a car just pulled out, and I didn’t slow down, didn’t speed up, didn’t slow down. I just thought, yeah, Whatever happens it happens and that scared me, you know, so I drove straight to my sisters and just said right I’ve just thought this bit scary, but I’m telling you so it’s out and I went went back to the doctors just spoke to them about it and emailed Kate, my, my therapist, and, just realised, yep, you’re never gonna get there again. You might think you do, and the voice might get as loud, but I’m never gonna get there again.

Lucy Waide [00:20:35]:
And that gives me an utter superpower, I think, anyway. Yes. Yes. And, and because I know that, I am a little bit more assertive in what I want to do Mhmm. And and what I think is important. So that’s that’s just how I’ve I’ve seem to have taken all any time I’ve done some something negative has has really entered my mind. I am able to flip it now and find something just as powerfully positive as that was dark. So in when I was teaching and was getting bullied, I I wrote a book wrote a book, and I’m a Bloomsbury author now.

Lucy Waide [00:21:17]:
When I, lost that, I I lost my teaching career. I started a chocolate business and and made that a success. This time, I’ve lost the chocolates again, but this is me coming back and and making taking a positive out of what I’ve, experienced. And I will I will make a positive out of it. No matter what I do, I’ll make a positive out of it.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:21:40]:
I have no doubt. I have no doubt. Yeah. And and thank thank goodness your your dogs were there just just the right time to give you that to give you that reason to to cling on.

Lucy Waide [00:21:49]:
Yeah. Just interrupt the thread. So somebody needs to interrupt the thread. So if if you are worried about somebody, text them. Text them, call them, interrupt the thread.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:21:58]:
Yeah. That really can make a a big difference. Yeah. As you say, you’re now in you’re now in in round 3. You’ve you’ve rediscovered, reconnected with your love of art, and you’ve also, discovered that are building building your tribe that’s enabling you to to help others and and help yourself while you while you’re helping others. So tell us a little bit about that just to round things off. What’s what’s going on there? What’s it all about?

Lucy Waide [00:22:23]:
So, so I’m I’m single.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:22:26]:
Mhmm.

Lucy Waide [00:22:26]:
That’s not a shout out. That’s not a shout out. I am single and, you know, other people. So so I haven’t got kids, but I’ve got nephews. I’ve got stepchildren. And a lot of people say, oh, you’re not feeling lonely. I’m like, no. No.

Lucy Waide [00:22:44]:
Not at all. Because I have, well, I like to call a tribe. I have amazing friends. I have an amazing sister. I have amazing family. I mean, I’m I’m adopted. I don’t believe that blood makes a family, and I think that’s also given me a superpower in how to understand who is important and who can be important in your life. Don’t matter if they’re blood.

Lucy Waide [00:23:05]:
If they care about you, if they’re there for you, they are part of your family. So, I found my tribe in a place called YAP, your affordable board, and, that was with somebody called an Andy Henderson. He’s a business coach. But he’s, not any normal business coach. He’s, you know, Adidas wearing, scrub T shirt wearing. Very sweary, so right up my street. I think I’ve done very well in this. You

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:23:28]:
have you have been very well prepared. Very restrained.

Lucy Waide [00:23:30]:
Keep keep your head on, maybe. I’ll have to go and swear for the rest of the day, actually. But, but yeah. So it it’s it’s called your. It’s just it’s a sort of a a group of businesses that get together, and they help problem solve. That it’s kinda networking, but not because I hate networking. And it is just businesses of all sizes. We get together.

Lucy Waide [00:23:54]:
We sit around the table. Somebody’s got a problem. We fix it. And I love that. I love it. And I found my tribe there. And, I’ll never I’ll never be alone.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:24:04]:
Yeah.

Lucy Waide [00:24:04]:
Never be lonely. You know? I think there’s the difference between being alone and being lonely. True.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:24:11]:
True. Yes. Yes.

Lucy Waide [00:24:12]:
I do like being alone sometimes with my dogs. Always gonna do.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:24:16]:
Lovely. So what what is what is the next phase? What’s the next phase of, of life bringing for you? What do you

Lucy Waite [00:24:25]:
More of this, I hope.

Lucy Waide [00:24:28]:
More of this. I’ve gotta get out there. I have to stop. So I’ve I’ve had number 9 surgery. That is the last surgery that I want. I have got to start getting back on with my life. I had the option to go into, start the chocolate again. I don’t I don’t want to.

Lucy Waide [00:24:45]:
It’s not what I wanna do. I wanna wanna make use of of all the crap I’ve been through. I wanna make use of everything that I’ve got in here now. Yeah. I mean, here, I, I really wanna make use of it. And and I’ve I’m just figuring out how to get out there and do it. By doing things like this, you know, I don’t know how else to do it other than be a bit more visible and say yes to the opportunities that are coming to be more visible. So, I do think I’m the the the book collaboration that we’ve done, I I do think that’s gonna kick start me into getting another book myself done.

Lucy Waide [00:25:23]:
I do have an editor at at Bloomsbury. Once you’re a Bloomsbury author, you’re always a Bloomsbury author. Oh, okay. But because it was 20 years ago, your editor constantly changes. Yeah. I have no idea who my editor is, but I I messaged them every now and then saying, nothing yet. So I think I’ll I’ll I’ll maybe have a look at doing doing a bit of a a book. Not sure about what what we just gotta do.

Lucy Waide [00:25:48]:
Somebody said the other day, the worst thing is to do no thing. So do do something.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:25:53]:
Do something. You can always Yeah. Do go. Yeah.

Lucy Waide [00:25:55]:
I’d love to do the critical friend thing for more people. I’d love to go into I don’t know whether to do it in business or in education because I have both sides of it. Although a lot of schools are becoming more business now, aren’t they? So Yeah. I don’t know. Though that’s kinda what I wanna do. I wanna go and help other people. Yeah. When they sit down with you, they’ve got a problem, I wanna be able to help them through it.

Lucy Waide [00:26:16]:
I am aware that I need to live, so it will I will have to charge for it, which I don’t like doing. Well, yeah, I think that’s what I wanna be doing now.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:26:26]:
Gotcha. That makes sense. And you you mentioned the collaborative book that you’re part of. Just remind us very brief just tell us very briefly about what Yes.

Lucy Waide [00:26:33]:
So it’s called beyond the ordinary. It’s a book it’s a collaboration of about 30 women who are either creative or neurodiverse or both. I’m creative, but I’ve also been in the neurodiverse world as a a teacher of autism and, and ADHD and and things. So, the the the need for creativity is huge, and it’s it’s just it’s only just now because that’s sort of been seen as something important in people’s lives. So the book is just a collaboration of our stories, of our journeys. So, it’s by Mandy Nicholson. It’s the lady that brought all that together And, the 30 voices that are in it are all from various backgrounds and and various ways that they use creativity, to fuel their life, basically.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:27:25]:
Beautiful. Nice. So you’ve done one book. You have now collaborated in a book, and you’ve probably got another book, just waiting to waiting to emerge.

Lucy Waide [00:27:37]:
Yeah. Not sure. Not sure what the thread of it is. It’s what I’m gonna do at the moment. But

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:27:45]:
well well, Lucy, thank you for taking some some time out of, of your day to to share with us an insight into who you are, what makes you who you are, and how you got through everything.

Lucy Waide [00:27:55]:
Thank you.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:27:56]:
Inspiring stuff in there, which I hope, has inspired a lot of other people as well. For anyone who wants to find out more or maybe get in touch, what’s the what’s the best way to find out more about Lucy?

Lucy Waide [00:28:06]:
So, I’m getting better at LinkedIn. So, LinkedIn to say I’m creative and business, you know, LinkedIn is probably the best way to get in touch with me, but I do you know, if you put Lucy Wade into Goop, that sounds so pretentious, doesn’t it? Usually.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:28:29]:
But yeah.

Lucy Waide [00:28:30]:
So, I’m I’m on Instagram and things, but LinkedIn is probably the thing.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:28:34]:
So look for Lucy Wade. That’s, w a I d e Yes. Waide. Look for Lucy Wade on LinkedIn. Connect with her. Follow her on a journey. Who knows? She may become a part of her next phase of her journey. Who knows? And, Lucy is available in other places as well.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:28:51]:
Obviously, I’ve got all the links. I have the links to the books and so on all in the show notes. The usual place, go to KeithBlakemoreNoble.com/show. Go to Keith Blakemore Noble Radio Show and look for the one with Lucy Wade. Or as I say, just go on to LinkedIn and connect with her there. Lucy, thank you so much. I’ve I’ve really enjoyed learning, learning a little bit about you and and getting inspired by some of your journey. So thank you

Lucy Waide [00:29:16]:
Thank you.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:29:17]:
For how to share it.

Lucy Waide [00:29:18]:
And you found me young. I’ve loved it.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:29:20]:
My absolute pleasure. And thank you, dear listener, dear viewer. Thank you for joining us. I hope you’ve, found it as interesting as I have. Do remember to give us a like, a comment, a share, subscribe, a review. It all helps. Spread it spread word about us on your favourite platform, and, I’ll catch you in another episode very soon. And just before we go, I will leave you, with Lucy’s favourite quote.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:29:44]:
Being a teacher, you might as you might expect, it is from Shakespeare himself. “She may be little, but she’s fierce”. Bye for now.