The One With Dominic Fenton

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:00:32]:
Hello. Hello. Hello. Welcome to another episode. So glad to have you with us. My guest this is a guest episode, obviously, and my guest today is a gentleman called Dom Fenton. I’ve done Dom for a for a while now, we’ve, been sort of in in similar similar circles through networking and and online events and so on. It’s taken us a while, managed to get Dom all know.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:00:55]:
He’s a very very busy man, and you’ll see why I wanted to get him on as we go through the, as we go through the episode. Dom is known as he is the activity connector, and he uses his own struggles to ensure that he is to others who he needed when he was growing up, which is perhaps one of the most powerful things powerful things any of us could be. That’s my guest, Dom Fenton. Let’s bring him in and find out more. Hey, Dom. How are you doing?

Dominic Fenton [00:01:27]:
Hi, Keith. Yeah. Really good. Thank you for as you said, thank you for having me on here. It’s, taken a while to do this, but, yeah, we’re finally here. So, yeah, excited about this, Tom.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:01:37]:
We yeah. No. I’m I’m looking forward to I’m looking forward to it. So, Dom, we’ve heard we’ve heard your brief bio, but who is Dom? Who is who is the guy behind the activity connector?

Dominic Fenton [00:01:47]:
So I’m 48. I’m a dad of 2 girls, and I run a number of businesses. I I’m involved in involved in a lot of sport, involved around mental health, work with charities. I do lot the problem is I do lots of things. It’s really hard to try and narrow that down. Hopefully hopefully that will come out in, while we’re having a while we’re having this chat. So, but, yeah, I’m I’m I’m just me. That’s all I am.

Dominic Fenton [00:02:19]:
I’m Don Fenton, and that’s all you need to know.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:02:22]:
Hey. There’s no just about it, and and people will find that out when we when we as as we explore deeper, there’s no just about who Don Fenton is. I gotta ask the question. You ensure that you are to others who you needed when you were growing up. Who did you need when you were growing up?

Dominic Fenton [00:02:42]:
I needed someone to be able to I needed something to be able to look up to. I had a childhood, 2 brothers, mom and dad, and everything was great there. There was there was nothing in in terms of that childhood. But then from young age, I started getting bit at school. For a trigger of anyone, I was I had, suicidal tendencies when I was 14 through a billion. And I know I hear a lot of people talk about this sort of thing, about being bullied and and stuff like this. And, bizarrely, a lot of us when we go through this to when we’re adults are grateful because actually we’re still here. And I think that’s the thing.

Dominic Fenton [00:03:31]:
We’re still here. We’ve got through it. And, basically, I wanted one of my big things is to try and ensure that stopped. We know that bullying will always happen, but actually it’s how it’s dealt with. I was very fortunate. I had I had I found rugby at a young age, so I found rugby at 5 years old. So when I was bullied at mainly secondary school, I had rugby as an outlet. So I talk a lot about outlet.

Dominic Fenton [00:03:59]:
I talk a lot about hobbies. I I work with I work with children all over the UK and beyond. And, yeah, I just try and try and inspire children, try and inspire adults, and just to really just to keep going and find find what they wanna do and find what they love and find what they’re passionate about.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:04:17]:
Yeah. Yeah. That that that that makes a lot of sense, and anyone who knows the work that you do will will certainly be able to tie it in with with with your background there. So you you had bullying at school, which as you say, unfortunately, bullying is probably always going to be there. It’s it’s it’s how it’s dealt with. That’s the important thing. How how was your bullying dealt with?

Dominic Fenton [00:04:41]:
I broke down on a Sunday night, and, basically, what ended up, I used to so I used to play rugby at the weekend, and then I’d get home. And we talk about a lot of people having those Monday or those Sunday night blues because you know exactly what’s. If you don’t like work a lot of it a lot of adults have this now. They don’t like work, but they know that actually on a Sunday night, they’re nervous, they’ve got anxiety, they’re they’re they’re really struggling. They’re not looking forward to going in. That partly happened to me. I was and I was on a pedal bike in the front room watching TV. And all of a sudden I got lots of stomach cramps and I broke down in front of my mum and dad.

Dominic Fenton [00:05:26]:
And mum mum went into school. And but by that time I was year sort of year 9, year 10. So probably by 14 I’ve had enough. And went into school. It it was dealt with to a point. I wouldn’t say it was ever necessarily dealt with, but it was dealt with to a point. I got through to year 11, did my GCSEs, and the best thing I ever did was leave school. And then went to 6thorn College.

Dominic Fenton [00:06:01]:
Partly that was the making of me because you start again. No one knows the past history. No one knows this. I then went to college, and I talked to probably more people I went to college with that I going to school with. And, yeah, I just started again. And, you know, you get as I say, you get through these get through these trials, get through these struggles. You know, daily working with schools, I see it every day. I, you know, I see it a lot.

Dominic Fenton [00:06:32]:
But it’s one of those situation that for me, I can just all I have to do is now control what I can control, and just try and give that message to people that actually can get through it. You know, I’m still here now having gone through all of this. And hopefully, whether it’s whether it’s a podcast, whether it’s people meeting me, all I ever try and do is inspire 1 person every day. And if if I do that, they’ll hopefully go and inspire 1 person every day, and actually that whole thing starts rolling out properly.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:07:05]:
Yeah. It it it creates a massive ripple effect, doesn’t it? Yeah. But by you helping one person, them helping one son, it ripples out as a result of what you’ve done. There are people you will never even hear of who’s lives are improved.

Dominic Fenton [00:07:19]:
Yeah. And I and I think that’s it and I think that’s it. And I’ve worked with children since I was probably 18 now. And, you know, I’ve coached rugby for I coached rugby for 25 years. You you never know the impact you’re having on someone. And I think for me, that’s the biggest thing. The amount of messages that I have from people now going or even young guys I used to coach who are now early thirties maybe, which make me sound really old. You, you know, they reach out and go, actually, you made a massive difference because this was going on my life.

Dominic Fenton [00:07:56]:
Should we know what was going on? Partly, maybe some a little bit, but actually you just do what you do. You you treat them as your own. You treat them as a family. You you look after them all when you’re when you’re in when they’re in your squad. And you hope you have that positive impact on them. So I’ve been trying to do that from the age of 18, just because I know what it’s like not to have that.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:08:18]:
Yeah. So how do you how do you help others? How how do you be the person you needed when when you were growing up? What do you think about that?

Dominic Fenton [00:08:28]:
I think a lot of that is just being open. I’m, you know, I had 3 years ago, I I hit rock bottom. And actually, it was I I was, you know, I I I literally hit rock bottom. I couldn’t go any further. I broke down my calf, for 3 hours on my own. And then decided the following morning that I need to reach out for help. But I just think that I think the troubles and the struggles you go through a lot of people struggle to be open with them. But my the way I look at it is that if I if I’m open and can show that you can get through it, hopefully others will take, hope from that and just go, well, actually, if Don can do it, then I can do it.

Dominic Fenton [00:09:15]:
I think it’s like anything in every day today. You’re whether you’re on on a podcast, whether you meet someone, so even if it takes a smile or it takes a good morning or it takes a handshake, whatever that is or just to go, look, if you’re struggling, you’ve got no one to to vent to, vent to me because I can I’ll know if it’s a vent or not.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:09:39]:
Yeah.

Dominic Fenton [00:09:40]:
If you’ve got no one that you can then turn to, just reach for reach out to me. Come and drop me a message. But I think it’s just being that it’s just being that person that you can go, look. Just give them a smile. Just give them a good morning. Just say just say please and thank you. If if they’ve done a good job, say well done. Because I think the amount of people that struggle because they don’t get that, even whether whether they’re school children, whether they’re whether they’re adults in work, the amount of people I speak to who go, I’ve never been told well done by my boss.

Dominic Fenton [00:10:18]:
I’m very fortunate that one of my bosses, he’s very good at that, and he’ll say thank you for what you’re doing. He’ll say well done on a good job. And I for me, I try and give that out as well. So any any staff that I’ve got, and I’ve had a number over the years, I’d like to think that the one thing that I’ve tried to do is give praise where praise is due. Just because you actually don’t know what’s going on. You don’t always know what’s going on in their lives. You you might know for a long time, but you just don’t know.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:10:53]:
Yeah. I I think there’s a couple of really important points that you you touch on there. One is that it’s just basic bits of human connection, just a smile, a hello, hey. Well done. Like what you did there can can it really can mean the world to people. And and also the, being in a being in a oh, gosh. I learned to speak one of these days. Being an example, for people.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:11:17]:
I I don’t mean follow follow my lead. Do what I do. I just mean just as as you said, my work. Don went through that, so I’m not the only one going through this.

Dominic Fenton [00:11:27]:
And, yeah, I

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:11:28]:
know from experience growing up with some of my struggles as well. Just you think you’re on your own, but if you see even if it’s somebody you’ll you’ll never speak to or or whatever, but you you see somebody else talking about what they’ve gone gone through. I know when, Stephen Fry started opening up about his his mental health struggles, it’s a massive difference difference. It’s like, oh my god. Not the only one, and here’s someone who at the pinnacle of their career, and they’ve gone through that sort of stuff.

Dominic Fenton [00:11:57]:
Yeah. Yeah. And I think loneliness is such a massive cause

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:12:02]:
Yeah.

Dominic Fenton [00:12:02]:
Because you you don’t you get to that point and go, you know, I’ve gone through I’ve gone through redundancies. I’ve gone through bullying. I’ve gone through mental breakdowns. I’ve gone through divorce. All of these sort of things, you you at the time you’re going through them, you’re going through them. You don’t think anyone else has gone through them?

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:12:21]:
Yeah. Exactly.

Dominic Fenton [00:12:22]:
And some sometimes the people you venture were the ones that have caused it as well. So you’re even more on your own. So you’ve got not only have you got that internal battle with yourself, because a lot of these sort of things people see as failures anyway. Mhmm. You know? Oh, you right. You’ve got divorced. Okay. Well, you’ve got my redundant.

Dominic Fenton [00:12:39]:
Well, okay. You know, is that is that because you weren’t very good or is that because actually that’s just the way the business was? All of these all of these things you’re eating up inside yourselves. And and you’re lonely and you you you don’t wanna reach out to some because you don’t wanna put the burden onto them. I’m, you know, I’m telling people to reach out to me. That’s what I do. I say, look, if you if you wanna go somewhere, tell me. If you’ve got no one to go with you, within reason, I’ll go I’ll go. If I’m around, I’ll go with you.

Dominic Fenton [00:13:09]:
You know? It’s like it’s like joining a the amount of people that don’t that struggle joining a new thing or a new hobby or a new sports club or a new drama group, whatever that may be, they’re anxious about going on their own. Yeah. Well, if you know your friend’s struggling, take go with them. Reach out your hand and go, okay. You need to be doing this. And if it means me being out for an hour just watching you and just being there around you so you know you’ve got a safety net to come away, Do that. It it’s just yeah. That’s I think that’s one of my big things is just reach out to people and go, look, we know you’re struggling.

Dominic Fenton [00:13:47]:
If you want if you wanna if you wanna go for support, if you wanna go for counselling, if you wanna go for therapy, whatever that is and you want something to go with you, let me know. And if I can, we’ll go together. Mhmm. Because I won’t be able to go in, but I can see outside and be ready for you afterwards.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:14:03]:
And I

Dominic Fenton [00:14:03]:
think and I think and I think that’s I think that’s one of the biggest things.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:14:07]:
Yeah. I I love that. I’ve I’ve never thought of it that way before, and and you’re absolutely right. Yeah. And just just knowing that there’s somebody there for you. Yeah. And also re reach out and talk with people sometimes sometimes even if they they can’t help, even if they don’t know what to say, even just being there for someone to let them get the stuff out.

Dominic Fenton [00:14:30]:
Yeah. Sometimes you don’t even need to say anything. Yeah. It’s just having that that other person have the opportunity to talk. Yeah. I’ll just sit here. Yeah. I’ll sit here.

Dominic Fenton [00:14:40]:
Just talk to me. I don’t need to acknowledge anything I don’t need to say, but you get now your system. I’ll drive you, have it out your system to beat yourself up inside.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:14:49]:
Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So, Dom, you’re the activity connector. What what is that? What’s it all about?

Dominic Fenton [00:14:59]:
So when I originally started the business, I I I came up with a really creative name, which was, DJ Fenton Sports and Event. Because my initials are d and j, my surname’s Fenton, and I do sports and I do event. And then someone went I don’t know. It was when we were networking. When we first connected. We were networking a couple of years ago. And I’m pretty sure it was Calum Nicholson.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:15:26]:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Mhmm.

Dominic Fenton [00:15:27]:
And we’re and I was talking. I was going, yeah, I might do a do a a new name or rebrand or whatever else. And he went, well, you talk about you talk a lot about activities because that could be anything. You know, it’s not just sport. It could be it could be anything. And also you connect people because, again, I connect businesses with schools. I put speakers into schools. I put business into schools.

Dominic Fenton [00:15:49]:
I connect with sports groups. I do, obviously, do podcasts and all these other bits. So I’m very much about connecting. And and, yeah, all of a sudden, the the activity connector was bought, and that’s where that’s where the name came from. And actually, I really like it because actually a lot of what I do is talk to people is is connect people. You know, in in our business, it’s it’s a trust. It’s very much about trust. So actually if I trust you and I connect with you and, you know, it works, then actually let’s have a conversation.

Dominic Fenton [00:16:26]:
Let’s see what we can do together. I love collaborating with businesses. I love I love looking at even in the same area, in the same sort of sector. There’s other businesses that I’ve supported or or put into schools or whatever that looks like. Because actually, part of the reason we’re so busy is there’s it’s generally where there are issues around the UK or around the world, fundamentally. And that’s why I think we’re so busy, where, you know, there’s not there’s not enough people now doing extracurricular in terms of school stuff, extracurricular activities. The amount of adults I talk to have got no hobbies. Even though as kids, they had 10 hobbies, they then get to a point and go and, actually, I think adulthood, you need a hobby more than ever.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:17:23]:
Definitely. Yes. Because that’s

Dominic Fenton [00:17:24]:
the amount of stress you go through for other stuff. People go, oh, I’ll put the kids no. But you need a hobby. You need something for yourself to go. It doesn’t matter what it is. Logs it’s having a positive impact on you, then, well, let’s get that going. But, yeah, I just think, you know, we we look at sort of we have a team I have a a collaboration with an organization that does domestic abuse training. I’ve got mental health charities I work with.

Dominic Fenton [00:17:50]:
I’ve got a team that do county lines talks. We’ve got we’ve got speakers that go into schools. I’ve got coaching businesses. So I’ve got all these other people that I can then put into schools.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:18:01]:
Yeah.

Dominic Fenton [00:18:02]:
But actually, it’s not then just schools, it’s doing the talks to other businesses. It’s it’s it’s worth which I work a lot with charities. You know, we have so there are so many charities in in the UK, and there’s always new ones stepping there’s always new ones coming up. And my big thing is we’ll collaborate with other charities. Do you need to set up a charity? Have a think about actually, if you’re setting up a charity, what that impact has on other charities

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:18:35]:
in your

Dominic Fenton [00:18:35]:
area because, again, you’re then going for the same money. Yes. Well, as a business, I work with charities. Rather than set my own charity up, I can then go work talk with a charity, go, right, let’s do this project, and we can work together on it. So but, actually, I’m not then creating another one. Yes. Not for the sake of creating another one, but I’m not creating another one that will land on to the the part, which means less money will then go. Mhmm.

Dominic Fenton [00:19:01]:
You know? So it’s there’s all these different bits to it. But again, it’s all about connecting organizations, connecting people, connecting sports clubs, whatever that looks like. And that’s my big that’s my big thing.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:19:15]:
Got it. Got it. So, I mean, you’ve you’ve got a lot of stuff going on. You’ve you’ve done a huge amount all already, and you’ve got a got a lot of stuff going on. What’s what’s kinda next? What’s the next big thing for for Dom and the activity connector? What what

Dominic Fenton [00:19:30]:
Well, we were briefly chatting about this before we, we went live. I’m as much as people will hear this and go, god, he likes to talk, I’m also someone who likes to take action.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:19:44]:
Mhmm.

Dominic Fenton [00:19:44]:
Because you can you can talk and talk and talk. And I get to the point, I talk so much, I then go, I just need to do it. So as, we have just launched the first my first men’s mental health conference.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:20:02]:
Mhmm.

Dominic Fenton [00:20:04]:
So yeah. So that’s that’s a really exciting bit. I’ve been talking about that for probably 6 months. And although that doesn’t sound a long time, actually, for me that is. So I’m very much someone said, if you wanna do I wanna do more public speaking. I wanna share stories more. I wanna help up more people. And someone went, well, why don’t you just create your own opportunities to talk? So I’ve created this yeah.

Dominic Fenton [00:20:32]:
I’ve created this project. Whether or not I’m actually gonna talk is another thing because the amount of people that already come at me and gone, I’d love to be involved, and I wanna be involved, and this is what I can say. And so I’m sort of going right. Okay. I’ve been looking at then and we were talking about best about locality because that one’s gonna be in Essex. Mhmm. I’m now looking at 1. We’re now gonna look at another one as well because, again, then it means we can impact more people.

Dominic Fenton [00:21:03]:
It means I can do it the other end of the country. It means that I can use more speakers and everything else. So they’re they’re the 2 they’re the 2 biggies. I’m also doing a, a sports club promotional week.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:21:24]:
Okay.

Dominic Fenton [00:21:24]:
Because again, there is a lot of in my local town in Chelmsford, we we did a promotion about 3 years ago, 4 years ago. And half the people in Chelmsford didn’t know we had a rugby club. And, actually, in that rugby club, we’ve got over 400 children. We’ve got 3 men’s teams. We’ve got a ladies team. So it’s a big club.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:21:47]:
Yes.

Dominic Fenton [00:21:48]:
And it got me thinking that there’s a lot of there’s a lot of lot of time when people don’t know what’s in their own town. So I’m gonna be doing, I’m gonna be hiring a doing a promotion there in a shopping center. We’re gonna be it’s gonna be a 7 day promotion. I’m gonna get clubs to pay in so we can then promote them, or get sponsors. If if we don’t want clubs to do it, we’ll get sponsors to come onboard. And then yeah. So that’ll be that’ll be that one, and that we can hopefully then just say, look, we’ve increased number of people that are now in sports clubs or clubs. 5% or maybe, you know, whatever number we look at.

Dominic Fenton [00:22:34]:
But then it gets more children off it it gets children off the street. It gets adults with their hobbies again. Every everything’s connected. And it’s all about trying to see what issues there are by by looking at positives and being out of control what we can control. So rather than moan about it, I’d rather do something about it.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:22:56]:
Love it. And, yeah, that that you’re gonna be some some really powerful events. I love I love the the way you were saying, I wanna get more speaking opportunities. Someone said to you, well, create your own opportunity. So you’ve now created it, and you’re going, well, I don’t even know if I’m gonna get to speak at it.

Dominic Fenton [00:23:10]:
Well, yeah. Yeah. It’s just I think there’s when you’ve got that need you know, I’m I’m very fortunate that I do a little bit of public speaking sort of in the last week. I’ve done a couple of, talks. 1, about my mental health journey. 2, about the power of a hobby. Again, because this whole bit of encouraging people to take up hobbies. As long as it’s a positive one, then just to take that up.

Dominic Fenton [00:23:36]:
But, yeah, you create something that’s needed, and we go from there. And we Yeah. You know, we we see what’s going on from there. So

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:23:44]:
Yeah. I mean, we had a little laugh and joke about you creating a speaking opportunity so you could speak, and now you’re probably not even gonna speak because there’s so many others, which is quite amusing. But I also think that’s that’s testament to, the power of what you do and the fact it’s not all about you. It’s about how can I best help these other people? And if it means creating a speaking opportunity and then not actually getting to speak because there are others who can help even more, then that’s what you do. I think that’s that’s a really powerful testament to to your approach about it shows that you are in it for how you can help people, not in it for bigging yourself up, which is which is really important thing in in in in these days, I feel.

Dominic Fenton [00:24:22]:
Yeah. I think I think as well it’s you do you do try and do it that way, and then if it just gets that moment, for me, it’s about the impact it has. Mhmm. Mhmm. But I also know that I will get more opportunities anyway just by the circle what the that we’re in and who we’re working with. But, yeah, we we just wanna impact more people, and more people, and then we and then we go from there.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:24:50]:
Oh, I love it. I love it. Time is unfortunately marching again. So I got cup couple of couple of quick questions for you before before we wrap up. One really important question. If you could could have just a a a one minute chat with the 14 year old girl, what would you say to him? How how would you help him? What would be your advice to that that, a kid in that situation?

Dominic Fenton [00:25:16]:
That’s really poignant because it was 14 that I was at my very lowest as a child.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:25:21]:
Exactly.

Dominic Fenton [00:25:22]:
So and I’ve thought about this a lot, because I do this quite a lot. And probably the biggest thing I’d say is that I’m proud of you. Only because you’ll get through it and you’re gonna come out on the other side a better person, and you’re going to inspire people. And I think I think and I think that’s it. I think Yeah. Yeah. It’s, yeah, it’s a really interesting one. It’s a it’s a really, really, really interesting one, I want.

Dominic Fenton [00:26:08]:
So, yeah, I’ll just I’d say I’m proud of you. Beautiful. And that’s probably all that’s probably all I need to say because, yeah.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:26:18]:
Beautiful. Love it. Don, for people who wanna find out a bit more or or maybe even get in touch, what’s the best way to do that?

Dominic Fenton [00:26:26]:
Best way is on LinkedIn. So if you just go on Dominic Fenton on LinkedIn, you’ll find me. I’ve got the activity connector page on LinkedIn as well, but, again, you can link that through on my on my LinkedIn. Yeah. That’s probably the best that’s probably the easiest and best way.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:26:46]:
Best way. So just go to go to LinkedIn and look for Dominic Fenton.

Dominic Fenton [00:26:51]:
Yeah.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:26:51]:
And, you’ll you’ll you’ll find Dom and connect connect to them there. Brilliant. Dom has got other other links and so on. They’re all gonna be in the show notes for this episode as always. Keith Blake with noble dot com slash show. Look for the one with Dominic Fenton. You’ll find all the details, or just find Dominic on LinkedIn. Tom, thank you so much for taking time out of your incredibly and increasingly busy schedule, to to share a half hour with us.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:27:20]:
I’ve loved it. I’ve learned a lot from you, and, hopefully, hopefully, this has helped to inspire other people either to reach out and help a mate who’s in need or to reach out themselves.

Dominic Fenton [00:27:32]:
Yeah. I think I think that’s the biggest thing. You just reach out. If you’re if you’re if you think you’ve got a if you think there’s a friend struggling, I always say reach out 2 or 3 times.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:27:43]:
Yes.

Dominic Fenton [00:27:44]:
Because because, generally, we we know what it’s like. Are you okay? Yeah. I’m fine. Yeah. As soon as you say as soon as you go back, are you sure? You’re given the permission to up to actually maybe change that answer.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:27:56]:
Mhmm. Yeah.

Dominic Fenton [00:27:57]:
So and and that that’s where it tends that’s where it tends to be. Yeah. And just and just be out and just reach out to people.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:28:05]:
Yeah.

Dominic Fenton [00:28:05]:
You know? You can see a lot from social media. You can see a lot from there’s always little hidden signs where people are struggling.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:28:12]:
There are. There are. And you’re right.

Dominic Fenton [00:28:14]:
You know, read it. Read read what they’re writing. Try and try and read between the lines. Do a little private message to them because you don’t need to do on the platform. No. Do it in their little hidden message. Just, you know, just make sure they’re okay.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:28:30]:
Yeah. And I think it’s an important thing you say there. Ask more than once because you’re right. We’re all conditioned. How are you doing? Yeah. I’m fine. Yeah. Thing I like to do is, how are you doing? Yeah.

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:28:40]:
I’m fine. Cool. So how are

Dominic Fenton [00:28:42]:
you really doing?

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:28:42]:
Yeah. And how that kinda lets people know, a, you kind of know there’s something going on, but, b, more importantly, you want to know, and it’s okay for them to to start to open up. Yeah.

Dominic Fenton [00:28:52]:
Yeah. And I always say talk to me. I always say, I’ll so I’ll be you know, are you how’s things? Are you okay? You know? Generally, it’s a case of, yeah, I might have seen the post and the drop. How and, normally, my thing is how how’s you, buddy? Yeah. You know? And, literally, oh, I’m fine. Are you sure? Talk to me. And then he’ll go Love it. So

Keith Blakemore-Noble [00:29:12]:
Beautiful. Dom, thank you so much. And thank you dear viewer, dear listener. Do remember, give us a like, a comment, a share, and a review, or subscribe. Check out Dominic Fenton on LinkedIn. I will catch you in another episode, and I will leave you with Dom’s favourite quote, “It is what it isI.